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Offline madshep

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Engine braking
« on: July 22, 2013, 11:00:36 am »
Had a BMW K1300GT before this Trophy, and a Kawasaki GTR 1400 before that.

I am loving the Trophy, but the one big disappointment so far is the engine braking --- or lack of it.

On my previous bikes, you could ride for miles and miles without ever having to use the brakes at all as the engine braking was sufficient to scrub off speed when approaching bends.

The Trophy doesn't have this, and so I find I am using the brakes a LOT more.

Of course I change down through the box to make sure I am in the right gear, but even then the speed doesn't drop off like you'd hope.

I've now done 1,700 miles, and so am wondering what thoughts any of you guys have on this.

Anyone found the same??
« Last Edit: July 22, 2013, 11:18:08 am by madshep »

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Re: Engine braking
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2013, 12:38:53 pm »
It might have something to do with the electronically controlled throttle. 
I use the engine to brake quite often.  It's not as pronounced as other bikes I've had, but it's there. 

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Re: Engine braking
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2013, 01:09:51 pm »
I have no problems with the bike slowing when shutting the throttle down. It is not as quick to do so as my old CB1300 was but still acceptable. The end of my commute involves 10 roundabouts (Milton Keynes) and I simply use the gears to slow me down each time. 
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Re: Engine braking
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2013, 05:56:20 pm »
usually three cylinders are said to deliver more engine braking than four's. And can testify this is the case when I compare the Trophy to my past Pan Euro St 1100
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Re: Engine braking
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2013, 06:23:15 pm »
If there really is less engine braking on the Triumph (and having recently ridden a R1200GS), I think that there may be quite a bit less on the Triumph, I would view the lack of engine internal frictional losses on it as being a good thing!  :001:

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Re: Engine braking
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2013, 10:36:59 am »
I've noticed that the old 900 doesn't engine break as much as I would expect... or to be honest, as much as I would like.

I'm also finding that the revs don't drop down too quickly when you rev the engine in neutral. I'm wondering if this has anything to do with it.

Generally, she's ticking over at just over 1k revs, but I'm wondering if the choke is completely releasing or just slightly staying open a tiny little bit....

Has anyone had the old 9/1200 and had slow dropping revs before?
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Re: Engine braking
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2013, 08:03:39 pm »
*Originally Posted by Verdun95 [+]
usually three cylinders are said to deliver more engine braking than four's. And can testify this is the case when I compare the Trophy to my past Pan Euro St 1100

Really?  My VFR 800 has more engine breaking than the Trophy.  When I roll off the throttle on the VFR, it's like I dropped an anchor!

I find the Trophy has sufficient engine breaking, especially if you downshift before a corner.
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Re: Engine braking
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2013, 08:11:36 pm »
You have to factor in the greater mass of the Trophy SE compared to the likes of a VFR 800.... considerably more momentum to bleed off which will effect how much you perceive of engine braking!
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