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  • Online Novocastrian   gb

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    Starting in cold weather - racing engine
    on: Dec 13, 2018, 09.55 am
    Dec 13, 2018, 09.55 am
    Compared to my old Trophy (4 cylinder 1200) this new one TTSE starts up at an uncomfortably high speed.  I say uncomfortable because I prefer a newly started engine to run at low revs until oil gets round the system (it's a BSA thing LOL).  WITH the old Trophy, it was a choke control. WITH the TTSE it's automatic, but really feels like the revs are way too high for the first 15 seconds or so until it settles down.  Do others experience the same thing?   Racing engine for those first critical seconds?  Makes me cringe a bit !
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    Re: Starting in cold weather - racing engine
    Reply #1 on: Dec 13, 2018, 12.56 pm
    Dec 13, 2018, 12.56 pm
    Hi

    I wouldn't worry about it to be honest, as you say it is automatically set by the Triumph engineers ( I assume that they know what they are doing 😀) mine has done it for 43,500 miles and doesn't seem to be a problem. Just enjoy a brilliant motorbike!!

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    Re: Starting in cold weather - racing engine
    Reply #2 on: Dec 13, 2018, 02.12 pm
    Dec 13, 2018, 02.12 pm
    Have to agree with you Novo, a stone cold, dry engine should never be revved above tick-over until the oil has time to lubricate the bores & cams lobed etc.

    Just tried to turn her over on the Kill Switch but that's no good - so can't get any oil pumped around before starting. :013:
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    Re: Starting in cold weather - racing engine
    Reply #3 on: Dec 14, 2018, 08.10 pm
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    Mine does the same. It did with my BMW, with my ST1300. Every injection bike.
    Perhaps to get a bit of heat in the exhaust to warm up the O2-sensor and/or catalytic converter?
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    Re: Starting in cold weather - racing engine
    Reply #4 on: Dec 15, 2018, 09.02 am
    Dec 15, 2018, 09.02 am
    It makes me cringe too, I don't think that there is anything we can do about it, just got to hope that 'modern day' oil is up to the job of protecting the internals quickly.

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    Re: Starting in cold weather - racing engine
    Reply #5 on: Dec 15, 2018, 08.45 pm
    Dec 15, 2018, 08.45 pm
    Hang on a minute... a KICKSTART would do it!

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    Re: Starting in cold weather - racing engine
    Reply #6 on: Dec 15, 2018, 09.41 pm
    Dec 15, 2018, 09.41 pm
    My old Suzuki is 30 year old this year and has run most every day for at least 8 months every one of those years and year round these past 7 years. Starts on manual choke at about 3500 RPM before I knock it back a bit but I still run it in cooler weather for about a minute above 2500 RPM.

    Still runs like a top on Dino oil so I definitely don't worry about my Trophy above idle for a few seconds.

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    Re: Starting in cold weather - racing engine
    Reply #7 on: Dec 16, 2018, 02.58 pm
    Dec 16, 2018, 02.58 pm
    Took me a bit to find this June 2016 post from Coconut. It fixed my cold engine idle up issues a while back. Might be worth the try.  :821:

    "You can reset the Engine Management Adaption without spending a Penny ( or a Cent ! ),
    and without having to undo a single screw, or connect anything at all to the Trophy !

    From the Service Manual :

    Ensure the engine is COLD
    WITHOUT TOUCHING THE THROTTLE,
    Start the engine and allow it to warm up until the Cooling Fan comes on.
    Leave the engine to idle for a further 12 minutes.

    Note :
    After the engine management adaptation has been reset on the Trophy,
    the Cruise Control Switch Check Function Test must ( may have to ? ) be performed.

    After the adaptions have been reset DTC1575 will be stored
    (cruise control disabled until button press sequence completed),
    and the cruise control disabled, until the function test is completed.

    The windscreen motor will cycle from fully up to fully down
    during engine management adaption reset.

    I believe that the above Note only refers to Adaption carried out using Triumph Diagnostic tools,
    and not the Manual procedure, however if the Cruise Control Switch Check Function Test is required,
    ( check to see if DTC 1575 has been stored ) and will also be indicated by the Green Cruise Control
    Warnng Light iilluminating when the Igniton is switched on, but the Cruise control will not activate.
     
    This Function Test is carried out when connected to the Triumph Diagnostic equipment,
    or by using after market tools such as "DealerTool", which is referenced eslewhere in these Forums ,
    and involves operating the following switches in sequence :

    Front Brake Switch
    Rear Brake Switch
    Clutch Switch
    Twist Grip cruise cancel switch ( roll twist grip forwards )
    Cruise Control ON/OFF switch
    Crusie Control accellerate switch
    Cruise Control decellerate switch

    Regards,"


     



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