No clutch operation

[redcap0006]

Went away for the weekend with the trusted TTSE 2013
Before I went my checks showed both brake and clutch fluid present
Still have brake fluid but clutch reservoir empty and a dead clutch lever, completed the journey carefully changing gears by judging revs.
Do I need a Clutch Slave Cylinder Replacement Seal Kit to remedy my No clutch issue
No DTCs present at this time
No fluids on ground where I was parked last night
Would it be a good or a bad idea to top up clutch fluid in the hope of making it to the garage with a working clutch. Any thoughts???
 
 

[janfmiller]

That's what I would do.
Make sure you bleed the clutch.   Check out this for guidance:  https://www.triumph-trophy.com/index.php?topic=4683.0

[LarryJa]

Keep us posted on what the ultimate cause & remedy are.
Topping up fluid & bleeding the clutch may get you to the shop or, it may just show you where the problem lies.
Either way, a good move...

[brenchley]

Originally Posted by redcap0006

Went away for the weekend with the trusted TTSE 2013
Before I went my checks showed both brake and clutch fluid present
Still have brake fluid but clutch reservoir empty and a dead clutch lever, completed the journey carefully changing gears by judging revs.
Do I need a Clutch Slave Cylinder Replacement Seal Kit to remedy my No clutch issue
No DTCs present at this time
No fluids on ground where I was parked last night
Would it be a good or a bad idea to top up clutch fluid in the hope of making it to the garage with a working clutch. Any thoughts???
 
 

Hey, redcap, most likely the clutch fluid dumped into the crankcase.  So, probably a bad idea to top up the clutch fluid - it'll probably just follow the rest into the crankcase.  A few of us of had this issue.  My dealer, at the time, thoroughly flushed the engine oil and replaced the filter.  I believe he used a seal kit to resolve the issue.  I haven't had any problems with it since.

I had no initial warning, it just happened - pulled in the clutch coming to a stop and...  nothing!  I was only a few hundred yards from home so I rode it in.  The dealer came and picked it up on a flatbed.  All costs were covered under an extended warranty.

If you use some variant of "clutch leak" or "clutch failure" in the search window, you'll probably get quite a few hits.

The following link is an early write-up by John384, which probably explains things better.  But again, there are quite a few entries on this subject.

https://www.triumph-trophy.com/index.php/topic,4559.msg58285.html#msg58285

[NEARMISSES]

Had the same issue about 10 months ago. Broken seal & the other bad news was the ball bearing end of the slave cylinder was flattened so a new seal kit would be ruined had I just replaced it.  Take out the clutch slave first and examine it. if it is flattened replace with a new cylinder or get a good used one on ebay like I did for 30 bucks!  I keep a spare with me and a seal kit now. I'm learning.

[earthman]

I'd say that the majority of the bikes that I've had had a cable operated clutch, wish that the Trophy did too for this reason.

How doable is fitting a new seal at the side of the road? Apart from carrying the seal and fluid, any special size tools needed??

I bet you need more than what's in the standard tool kit pouch? Lol

I have added certain tools to deal with a broken gear lever pivot bolt.

[Coconut]

Tools needed :

Clutch Cover bolts - 5 x Hex Head - 8mm Socket.

Clutch Slave Cylinder securing bolts - 3 x Hex Head - 8mm Socket.

Hydraulic Hose securing bolt ( Not mentioned in Service Manual ) - 1 x Hex Head - 8mm Socket.

Bleed Screw - 10mm Open ended spanner.

Hydraulic Hose to Slave Cylinder Banjo bolt - 14mm Open ended spanner.

There is also a Gasket behind the Slave Cylinder ( Part Number T1171711 ),
( which is also not mentioned in the Sevice Manual ),
that may need replacing after being disturbed.

Similarly, if the Hose to Slave Cylinder unon is disturbed,
it is recommended to fiit new sealing washers ( 2 x T3550229 ).

A complete Slave Cylinder assembly ( T1177777 ) is no longer available,
according to the World of Triumph parts list.

A Service Kit comprising Spring, Seal, Bleed Screw, Bleed Screw dust cover,
and 2 x Banjo sealing washers is available in the UK from "Sprint Manufacturing"

18/09/21 Edited to add - An updated Clutch Slave cylinder, superseding T1177777
is now available, with a new Part Number of T1177888.

[earthman]

Great, I have all those tools in my kit already, will order a service kit via that link.