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Re: Cruise control dropping out at times
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2019, 11:21:24 AM »
Well I was able to test the brake light switches. I would say they are working perfectly.  They took quite reasonable pressure to make the brake light come on. No amount of jiggling etc from either the handle or the pedal caused an accidental brake light flash.

Checking the clutch switch isn't so easy. Given it's now 9:20 PM and the bike is jammed up hard against the Blackbird, I'm a bit limited getting in there to get probes on the switch wires.



I'm thinking I will ride it soon and play with the clutch switch in operation and see if it is a little sensitive. I'll also monitor my own performance closely and see if I've developed a habit of trail braking I haven't picked up on. I am getting old.

I'll report back when that's done. Thanks for the assistance so far.
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Re: Cruise control dropping out at times
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2019, 11:24:10 AM »
*Originally Posted by Coconut [+]
I don't know whether the Cable you have for another Bike would work,
but if it's a "standard" OBD II, I doubt it very much, as I believe the Trophy
uses a specific "non standard" communication Protocol.

You'd also need the correct to communicate with the Trophy.



Yup copy that. I'll look into dealer tool. Just checking the bike then the OBD plug looks smaller than my Tiger cable.

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Re: Cruise control dropping out at times
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2019, 11:53:00 AM »
Another thing - Have you checked for any "Dagnostic Trouble Codes" ( DTC's ) ?

Always worth checking, just in case anything has been stored that might give an indication.

To access the Diagnostic Trouble Codes Screen :

1.  Ignition OFF
2.  Press and hold in the Scroll UP and "i" buttons together - See Photo.
     ( Fiddly to do - use the Thumb and forefinger of your left hand ! )
3.  Keep the buttons pressed in, and turn the Ignition ON ( with your other hand ! )
4.  Keep the buttons pressed in until the Speedo and Tacho needles have finished their sweep -
     the Diagnostics Screen should then appear and you can let go of the buttons.
5.  "P0000" displayed means there are no DTC's stored.
6.  Use the Scroll buttons if there are multiple DTC's.



There is also a Cruise Control Reset process, usually used
after the Cruise Control has been completely disabled,
that might be worth trying - I can't see that it would do any harm !

In the follwoing order .....
  • Engine Kill Switch ON (engine not running)
  • Cruise Control switched OFF ( Button "out" )
  • Turn Ignition key ON
  • Activate & Release Front brake switch
  • Activate & Release Rear brake switch
  • Activate and Release Clutch switch
  • Activate and Release Twist grip switch (push the throttle in the closed position)
  • Activate cruise on/off switch to ON ( Button "in" )
  • Activate and Release Cruise accelerate switch
  • Activate and Release Cruise decelerate switch
  • Turn OFF Cruise Control switch. ( Button "out" )
  • Turn OFF Ignition.

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Re: Cruise control dropping out at times
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2019, 12:09:54 PM »
*Originally Posted by Coconut [+]
Another thing - Have you checked for any "Dagnostic Trouble Codes" ( DTC's ) ?


I know people have said this before, but you are freaking awesome Coconut.  :020:

Thanks so much for your help and thoughts.  :028:

I did not know it was that easy to check for DTCs.



So this is good right?  :152:

So now my tasks are:

1) Perform the reset procedure for kicks and giggles
2) Ride and check for touchy clutch switch cancellation
3) Check my performance for trail braking
4) Go to the same road and see if the fault replicates

Sadly with it now being 10:00pm Sunday evening, and this week involving a work trip to the other end of Queensland, it will take me some time to do all this, but I will report back as soon as I follow up.

Again cheers mate  :821:
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Re: Cruise control dropping out at times
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2019, 01:12:42 PM »
P0000 is Good  :169: - It means there are NO DTC's stored.

If you ever do find and DTC's, this Topic is your next Port of call :

Servicing Data, Reference Info. & DTC ( Fault ) Codes where you will find, at Post Reply #5
a Message titled Diagnostic Trouble Codes ( DTC's ) / Fault Codes, at the end of which
you will find a Link to Download a List of all the DTC's, their meanings, and other useful
information that I compiled from information contained within the Service Manual.

Lots of other useful information in that Topic too, such as Torque values,
Service Schedule, Menu Map, Service Items ( Parts ), etc.

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Re: Cruise control dropping out at times
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2019, 08:12:10 PM »
So I had two work trips back to back. First one was to fly to the other end of Queensland. That one is behind me. Friday night I slept in my own bed for one night, then the weekendís mission was to drive the company car to central Queensland for a work meeting.

You guessed it, I left the work car at home and rode the Trophy. Traffic was a bit ordinary at times, but I completed 546klms in 6:45 including one half hour stop. Once I cleared Brisbane and the Sunshine Coast areas (heavy traffic and roadworks) cruise control was on pretty much the whole time. At one point I did 387klms without stopping which is a record for me.  :062:

Cruise control did not miss a beat. I played around with the clutch lever quite a bit and CC did not disconnect. I canít find anything touchy about it.

It genuinely seems the problem occurs only on that one bit of road.

As soon as I can, I will ride that same road the same way and report back. I didnít go anywhere near that bit of road this trip.  :027:

Cheers, Keith
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Re: Cruise control dropping out at times
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2019, 07:07:23 PM »
*Originally Posted by teef.au [+]
So I had two work trips back to back. First one was to fly to the other end of Queensland. That one is behind me. Friday night I slept in my own bed for one night, then the weekendís mission was to drive the company car to central Queensland for a work meeting.

You guessed it, I left the work car at home and rode the Trophy. Traffic was a bit ordinary at times, but I completed 546klms in 6:45 including one half hour stop. Once I cleared Brisbane and the Sunshine Coast areas (heavy traffic and roadworks) cruise control was on pretty much the whole time. At one point I did 387klms without stopping which is a record for me.  :062:

Cruise control did not miss a beat. I played around with the clutch lever quite a bit and CC did not disconnect. I canít find anything touchy about it.

It genuinely seems the problem occurs only on that one bit of road.

As soon as I can, I will ride that same road the same way and report back. I didnít go anywhere near that bit of road this trip.  :027:

Cheers, Keith

Makes me wonder if there's some sort of transmitter/item that's causing electrical interference on that road then? I don't know for sure how or why exactly such a device could affect a vehicle's ECU/running system but you never know I guess. Vehicles have become way too complex for my liking, I knew where I stood with carbs and just a few 12v wires. :008: